Cree Mailing List Digest
February 1997

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-> cree kinship terms
     by Nicole Stuckenberger <(suppressed)@uni-muenster.de>
-> post.re.chief
     by (suppressed)@wsii.com (Peter  s Gadoury)
-> post/ancestry
     by (suppressed)@wsii.com
-> Re: post/ancestry
     by (suppressed)@ccinet.ab.ca (arlenecolosimo)
-> Re: cree kinship terms
     by (suppressed)@ccinet.ab.ca (arlenecolosimo)
-> St.Damien de Brendan
     by (suppressed)@wsii.com
-> metis
     by (suppressed)@wsii.com (Peter  s Gadoury)
-> Re: metis
     by Cardinal Lewis <(suppressed)@ucsub.Colorado.EDU>
-> National Archives/Parish Records
     by (suppressed)@wsii.com (Peter  s Gadoury)
-> Gadoury's
     by (suppressed)@wsii.com (Peter  s Gadoury)
-> Hi! Mailing List Page and Recipes!
     by Sioux <(suppressed)@ideal.net.au>
-> Uh Oh!!! I forgot the URL!!!!!
     by Sioux <(suppressed)@ideal.net.au>


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Date: 1 Feb 1997 05:43:24 -0500
From: Nicole Stuckenberger <(suppressed)@uni-muenster.de>
Subject: cree kinship terms

Hi,
I am working on the conceptualization of the social among the Western Woods
Cree, especially
among the Rocky Cree. I found two geneological list of kinshipterms (Rossignol
1938 and Curtis
1928). They differ in many respects. The most problematic one is at least
Curtis translations for the
positions M, F, MB, MZ, FB, MB. If you use the analytical framework of
Iroquois Cousin
Terminology you would expect to find corresponding terms from ego's generation
towards their
parent's generation: F=FB MB und M=MZ FZ. But this is not the case in Curtis'
terminology
(Rossignol did not give any terms for this relations). His usage implies an
bifurcate collateral system
and not a bifurcate merging system. (Smith (1975) also wrote somewhere that
they have a bifurcate
collateral system with Iroqouis Cousin Terminology, but he did not see the
contradiction in the
system by saying so) Curtis terms are the following: M=nikawiy, F=notawiy,
MZ=nitosis,
FZ=nisikos, FB=nokomis, MB=nisis. (I ask you for pardon for the
mistranscription of the terms, but
I am not an expert in Cree). 
Now my questions? Could it be that Curtis' terminology reflects Plains Cree
usage? Could you give
me the correct terms for M,F,MB,MZ,FB,FZ?

It would make me very happy to get replies on this topic, 
bye bye yours Nicole Stuckenberger
e-mail: stucken@uni-muenster.de


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Date: 2 Feb 1997 12:12:27 -0500
From: (suppressed)@wsii.com (Peter  s Gadoury)
Subject: post.re.chief

>>My accountant says originally his last name was Bousquet.He showed me
>>a picture of an indian chief that was in the Providence journal,Prov-
>>idence R.I.,does anyone know who this chief was and what tribe he was
>>from.Origin is Quebec Canada. Please reply to Thom.
>> ram@wsii.com


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Date: 2 Feb 1997 12:35:44 -0500
From: (suppressed)@wsii.com
Subject: post/ancestry

I have recently come across some information as to my families origin
I am a Gadoury/Dagoury when my ancestors came over from France in the
early 1700's.My grandfather grew up in a little village named St.
Damien de Brenden,which is north of St. Gabrielle.My question is does
anyone know of any Cree/Gadoury's in that neck of the woods,if not what
is a good route to take to find that information??                  

Thanks      Thom Gadoury


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Date: 3 Feb 1997 05:33:08 -0500
From: (suppressed)@ccinet.ab.ca (arlenecolosimo)
Subject: Re: post/ancestry

>I have recently come across some information as to my families origin
>I am a Gadoury/Dagoury when my ancestors came over from France in the
>early 1700's.My grandfather grew up in a little village named St.
>Damien de Brenden,which is north of St. Gabrielle.My question is does
>anyone know of any Cree/Gadoury's in that neck of the woods,if not what
>is a good route to take to find that information??                  
>
>Thanks      Thom Gadoury
>
>
>Thom ,I posted you a note already today but it may come back to me as I
think that we are to use the cree@arpp.carleton .ca . So when it is returned
to me I will put the above address on it,okay. You can also go to any good
library and order micro fisch with ship passengersprinted on them however
known the ship name or port of entry would help . I,ve been into some in
ottawa and the are super to read  .It takes about 3 hours per film if the
family names  are not  in alphabetical order. TTYL


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Date: 3 Feb 1997 06:57:44 -0500
From: (suppressed)@ccinet.ab.ca (arlenecolosimo)
Subject: Re: cree kinship terms

>Hi,
>I am working on the conceptualization of the social among the Western Woods
Cree, especially
>among the Rocky Cree. I found two geneological list of kinshipterms
(Rossignol 1938 and Curtis
>1928). They differ in many respects. The most problematic one is at least
Curtis translations for the
>positions M, F, MB, MZ, FB, MB. If you use the analytical framework of
Iroquois Cousin
>Terminology you would expect to find corresponding terms from ego's
generation towards their
>parent's generation: F=FB MB und M=MZ FZ. But this is not the case in
Curtis' terminology
>(Rossignol did not give any terms for this relations). His usage implies an
bifurcate collateral system
>and not a bifurcate merging system. (Smith (1975) also wrote somewhere that
they have a bifurcate
>collateral system with Iroqouis Cousin Terminology, but he did not see the
contradiction in the
>system by saying so) Curtis terms are the following: M=nikawiy, F=notawiy,
MZ=nitosis,
>FZ=nisikos, FB=nokomis, MB=nisis. (I ask you for pardon for the
mistranscription of the terms, but
>I am not an expert in Cree). 
>Now my questions? Could it be that Curtis' terminology reflects Plains Cree
usage? Could you give
>me the correct terms for M,F,MB,MZ,FB,FZ?
>
>It would make me very happy to get replies on this topic, 
>bye bye yours Nicole Stuckenberger
>e-mail: stucken@uni-muenster.de
>
>
>Nicole , Sorry  ,You will have to dig deeper . Their are people before
those two that did a super job of classification for the cree language .TTYL


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Date: 9 Feb 1997 14:35:11 -0500
From: (suppressed)@wsii.com
Subject: St.Damien de Brendan

I am searching for cree  indians that are Gadoury's in the area of 
Canada north of Montreal listed in the subject.I believe that some
Gadoury's inter mingled with the cree in the 1700's .I am trying to
trace my routes any info would be greatly appreciated.Where in Canada
are such records kept so that i might access this info.Thanks          
Thom


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Date: 11 Feb 1997 09:35:27 -0500
From: (suppressed)@wsii.com (Peter  s Gadoury)
Subject: metis

Would a person who is french canadian and cree indian be considered a Metis.
I currently reside in the U.S.and and trying to dig up info on my ancestry.
thanks      Thom


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Date: 11 Feb 1997 12:31:15 -0500
From: Cardinal Lewis <(suppressed)@ucsub.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Re: metis


Thom,

The answer is yes.  Initially the Metis were recognized as having
the mixed blood of French Candian and any First Nation.  The definition
has expanded to include any Euro and First Nation.  As a point to note,
the Canadian Constitution of 1982 defines Metis as an aboriginal group as
distinct as any First Nation.  For more info you may want to contact the
Metis National Council in Ottawa for clearer guidelines than what I have
given.

Good Luck,

- - Lewis Cardinal   

On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Peter  s Gadoury wrote:

> Would a person who is french canadian and cree indian be considered a Metis.
> I currently reside in the U.S.and and trying to dig up info on my ancestry.
> thanks      Thom


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Date: 14 Feb 1997 09:50:25 -0500
From: (suppressed)@wsii.com (Peter  s Gadoury)
Subject: National Archives/Parish Records

Does anyone have an address for the subject above E-mail or otherwise


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Date: 22 Feb 1997 17:50:00 -0500
From: (suppressed)@wsii.com (Peter  s Gadoury)
Subject: Gadoury's

Are there any Gadoury's out there whom are cree indian decendants?If give
me a shout and let me know,thanks Thom Gadoury


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Date: 23 Feb 1997 03:11:51 -0500
From: Sioux <(suppressed)@ideal.net.au>
Subject: Hi! Mailing List Page and Recipes!

Hello everybody!,

Just thought I'd drop by and say hello.  If any one would like to visit, I
now have 63 lists on my Native American Mailing Lists page!

If you know of any, please let me know and I'll add them.

Also, I am starting a page for native american traditional recipes.....and
I'd love to have your contributions!

Tanyan Mani,

Peace,

Sioux


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Date: 23 Feb 1997 04:40:01 -0500
From: Sioux <(suppressed)@ideal.net.au>
Subject: Uh Oh!!! I forgot the URL!!!!!

Hello everybody!,

I forgot to include the URL.........stupid me! It is:

              http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5559

.............................................................................

Just thought I'd drop by and say hello.  If any one would like to visit, I
now have 63 lists on my Native American Mailing Lists page!

If you know of any, please let me know and I'll add them.

Also, I am starting a page for native american traditional recipes.....and
I'd love to have your contributions!

Tanyan Mani,

Peace,

Sioux


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